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		<title>By: Meaningful Books and Getting to Know the Community &#124; Information Tyrannosaur</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-495</link>
		<dc:creator>Meaningful Books and Getting to Know the Community &#124; Information Tyrannosaur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 17:51:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] my friend Becky from library school at UW-Madison told me about a community reception her library runs that highlights faculty scholarship and creativity. So [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-492</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a pretty cool idea Becky! I may have to steal it. It would be awesome to get faculty together to share each others accomplishments or just know what other people are interested in or working on. It seems like such a good community building event, and a way to show librarians in a more professional light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a pretty cool idea Becky! I may have to steal it. It would be awesome to get faculty together to share each others accomplishments or just know what other people are interested in or working on. It seems like such a good community building event, and a way to show librarians in a more professional light.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-789</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 14:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s a pretty cool idea Becky! I may have to steal it. It would be awesome to get faculty together to share each others accomplishments or just know what other people are interested in or working on. It seems like such a good community building event, and a way to show librarians in a more professional light.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a pretty cool idea Becky! I may have to steal it. It would be awesome to get faculty together to share each others accomplishments or just know what other people are interested in or working on. It seems like such a good community building event, and a way to show librarians in a more professional light.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-490</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Self promotion is a bit of a slippery slope sometimes, but I think need for library PR is huge. How else do we expect people to begin to understand what we do as professionals?

One thing we do here (the library hosts and organizes it) is a faculty scholarship and creativity reception. We ask for all faculty and staff to send in their accomplishments outside the classroom, whether it be awards, publications, honors, presentations, or creative works like performing in a play or directing a concert. It&#039;s only the 4th year we&#039;ve done it, but it&#039;s nice to have everyone get together and see what we as a whole have accomplished. I never knew our campus web designer was a painter. Or that a communications professor is the local community theatre costumes person. And it gave the rest of the faculty a chance to see what the librarians are doing in our spare time: writing book chapters, articles, and giving presentations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self promotion is a bit of a slippery slope sometimes, but I think need for library PR is huge. How else do we expect people to begin to understand what we do as professionals?</p>
<p>One thing we do here (the library hosts and organizes it) is a faculty scholarship and creativity reception. We ask for all faculty and staff to send in their accomplishments outside the classroom, whether it be awards, publications, honors, presentations, or creative works like performing in a play or directing a concert. It&#8217;s only the 4th year we&#8217;ve done it, but it&#8217;s nice to have everyone get together and see what we as a whole have accomplished. I never knew our campus web designer was a painter. Or that a communications professor is the local community theatre costumes person. And it gave the rest of the faculty a chance to see what the librarians are doing in our spare time: writing book chapters, articles, and giving presentations.</p>
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		<title>By: Becky</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-788</link>
		<dc:creator>Becky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 18:25:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Self promotion is a bit of a slippery slope sometimes, but I think need for library PR is huge. How else do we expect people to begin to understand what we do as professionals?

One thing we do here (the library hosts and organizes it) is a faculty scholarship and creativity reception. We ask for all faculty and staff to send in their accomplishments outside the classroom, whether it be awards, publications, honors, presentations, or creative works like performing in a play or directing a concert. It&#039;s only the 4th year we&#039;ve done it, but it&#039;s nice to have everyone get together and see what we as a whole have accomplished. I never knew our campus web designer was a painter. Or that a communications professor is the local community theatre costumes person. And it gave the rest of the faculty a chance to see what the librarians are doing in our spare time: writing book chapters, articles, and giving presentations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self promotion is a bit of a slippery slope sometimes, but I think need for library PR is huge. How else do we expect people to begin to understand what we do as professionals?</p>
<p>One thing we do here (the library hosts and organizes it) is a faculty scholarship and creativity reception. We ask for all faculty and staff to send in their accomplishments outside the classroom, whether it be awards, publications, honors, presentations, or creative works like performing in a play or directing a concert. It&#8217;s only the 4th year we&#8217;ve done it, but it&#8217;s nice to have everyone get together and see what we as a whole have accomplished. I never knew our campus web designer was a painter. Or that a communications professor is the local community theatre costumes person. And it gave the rest of the faculty a chance to see what the librarians are doing in our spare time: writing book chapters, articles, and giving presentations.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-486</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Erin I think your example of starting your own business is a good one. Just like other businesses or services, we also need to market what we do. Businesses can&#039;t get away with not promoting themselves, and we&#039;re no different. That sense of urgency that you discuss is difficult to get in libraries. And we don&#039;t have marketing departments. Do we need people dedicated to PR and promoting the library?

@walt I think I see what you&#039;re saying about distinctions. In all three examples the spirit in which you are saying it is very different. The first one is very genuine while the other two are more duplicitous. Sharing can be good but the way in which you share matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erin I think your example of starting your own business is a good one. Just like other businesses or services, we also need to market what we do. Businesses can&#8217;t get away with not promoting themselves, and we&#8217;re no different. That sense of urgency that you discuss is difficult to get in libraries. And we don&#8217;t have marketing departments. Do we need people dedicated to PR and promoting the library?</p>
<p>@walt I think I see what you&#8217;re saying about distinctions. In all three examples the spirit in which you are saying it is very different. The first one is very genuine while the other two are more duplicitous. Sharing can be good but the way in which you share matters.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-787</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 19:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Erin I think your example of starting your own business is a good one. Just like other businesses or services, we also need to market what we do. Businesses can&#039;t get away with not promoting themselves, and we&#039;re no different. That sense of urgency that you discuss is difficult to get in libraries. And we don&#039;t have marketing departments. Do we need people dedicated to PR and promoting the library?

@walt I think I see what you&#039;re saying about distinctions. In all three examples the spirit in which you are saying it is very different. The first one is very genuine while the other two are more duplicitous. Sharing can be good but the way in which you share matters.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Erin I think your example of starting your own business is a good one. Just like other businesses or services, we also need to market what we do. Businesses can&#8217;t get away with not promoting themselves, and we&#8217;re no different. That sense of urgency that you discuss is difficult to get in libraries. And we don&#8217;t have marketing departments. Do we need people dedicated to PR and promoting the library?</p>
<p>@walt I think I see what you&#8217;re saying about distinctions. In all three examples the spirit in which you are saying it is very different. The first one is very genuine while the other two are more duplicitous. Sharing can be good but the way in which you share matters.</p>
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		<title>By: walt crawford</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>walt crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Announcing, with pride, the publication of your first C&amp;RL News article: Good.

Saying &quot;after a spirited bidding war by several publishers, ACRL won and was able to publish this&quot;--that is, lying about it to increase your importance: Not so good.

Repeating over and over again that your article was the best thing ACRL ever published: Probably not so good either.

There are distinctions. I have trouble with posts that not only excuse but seem to recommend lying and boasting. Which you aren&#039;t doing, but--as I read it--Shirky was.

Good post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Announcing, with pride, the publication of your first C&amp;RL News article: Good.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;after a spirited bidding war by several publishers, ACRL won and was able to publish this&#8221;&#8211;that is, lying about it to increase your importance: Not so good.</p>
<p>Repeating over and over again that your article was the best thing ACRL ever published: Probably not so good either.</p>
<p>There are distinctions. I have trouble with posts that not only excuse but seem to recommend lying and boasting. Which you aren&#8217;t doing, but&#8211;as I read it&#8211;Shirky was.</p>
<p>Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: walt crawford</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-786</link>
		<dc:creator>walt crawford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 18:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Announcing, with pride, the publication of your first C&amp;RL News article: Good.

Saying &quot;after a spirited bidding war by several publishers, ACRL won and was able to publish this&quot;--that is, lying about it to increase your importance: Not so good.

Repeating over and over again that your article was the best thing ACRL ever published: Probably not so good either.

There are distinctions. I have trouble with posts that not only excuse but seem to recommend lying and boasting. Which you aren&#039;t doing, but--as I read it--Shirky was.

Good post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Announcing, with pride, the publication of your first C&amp;RL News article: Good.</p>
<p>Saying &#8220;after a spirited bidding war by several publishers, ACRL won and was able to publish this&#8221;&#8211;that is, lying about it to increase your importance: Not so good.</p>
<p>Repeating over and over again that your article was the best thing ACRL ever published: Probably not so good either.</p>
<p>There are distinctions. I have trouble with posts that not only excuse but seem to recommend lying and boasting. Which you aren&#8217;t doing, but&#8211;as I read it&#8211;Shirky was.</p>
<p>Good post.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://andyburkhardt.com/2010/01/26/nice-librarians-finish-last/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 17:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I couldn&#039;t agree more that we &quot;can&#039;t afford to be meek&quot;.  I don&#039;t mind self-promoters, as long as they have a balanced approach.  There is nothing wrong with tooting one&#039;s horn, as long as you sometimes toot other&#039;s horns. 

We owe it to ourselves and to librarianship in general to market what makes us great as individuals, as professionals, and as institutions.

Starting my own business has made this all hit home for me, in a way it never did when I worked in a library.  My survival depends on my ability to market myself - there&#039;s a sense of urgency that just didn&#039;t exist when marketing was someone else&#039;s job, or nobody&#039;s job.

Regardless, as Shirky suggests, I don&#039;t think that we need to be disingenuous about what we do or who we are.  We are great people doing great things, and there isn&#039;t anything wrong with reminding people of that fact.

Thanks for keeping the conversation going!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t agree more that we &#8220;can&#8217;t afford to be meek&#8221;.  I don&#8217;t mind self-promoters, as long as they have a balanced approach.  There is nothing wrong with tooting one&#8217;s horn, as long as you sometimes toot other&#8217;s horns. </p>
<p>We owe it to ourselves and to librarianship in general to market what makes us great as individuals, as professionals, and as institutions.</p>
<p>Starting my own business has made this all hit home for me, in a way it never did when I worked in a library.  My survival depends on my ability to market myself &#8211; there&#8217;s a sense of urgency that just didn&#8217;t exist when marketing was someone else&#8217;s job, or nobody&#8217;s job.</p>
<p>Regardless, as Shirky suggests, I don&#8217;t think that we need to be disingenuous about what we do or who we are.  We are great people doing great things, and there isn&#8217;t anything wrong with reminding people of that fact.</p>
<p>Thanks for keeping the conversation going!</p>
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